ISSUE 008
Ten Toes Forward
January 26, 2024 | Reilly Stasienko in conversation with Jose Padilla, photographed by Elias Dickson and Nicole Weiss.
From Dayton, Ohio, Reilly Stasienko (@stazienko) is an artist who showcases her work through
a series of mediums. Whether it is from her oil paintings or her film pictures, her versatility in her art is what makes up her curiosity right at her home in Cincinnati.
How do you get inspired based on stuff you see everyday for your art?
Rabbit holes and research. I’m always digging through old books, online museum archives, YouTube, etc. I haven’t been bored since I realized how much there is out there. I can only try to scrape the surface of all there is to learn in this life. I’ll always be a daydreamer. You have to sacrifice reality a little bit for the sake of your art.
And painting, especially in oils, is a timeless act. What draws us all to paint the same themes throughout time, such as war, devotion, the vitality of spring, or the hero and the villain?
I’m always looking through archives or watching YouTube palette studies from masters such as Goya, Beksiński, Rembrandt, etc.
I draw from life a lot. I draw people that I know, or as I once knew them. I draw them to bring them back. The Midwest is a seemingly mundane place; you have to really search for the beauty of it all. I find it in the powerlines, water towers, rolling hills and factories with their decayed and rotting walls.
What's your creative process like?
It’s organized chaos. I would hardly call my bedroom a bedroom. It’s more like a studio with a bed in it. Paintings line my walls and sketchbooks cover my shelves. I have a hallway where I stack my larger pieces. That hallway gets thinner as I stack more paintings into it. This is what makes it feel like home for me. When I work, I float and move. I can never stay in one place; I have to get it all down. Or maybe, I have to get it out of me.
During the day, it’s business as usual. I’m usually planning pieces with a sketchbook or my iPad, working on my website, reading, writing, researching and doing more of the behind the scenes “secretary” work. Lately I’ve been hustling on the merchandise side of things — making shirts, posters, skateboard decks, stickers, etc. Not everyone can afford an original oil painting, even I can’t, so I’m making my work more accessible and functional through things I rotate through my website’s shop.
I used to do a lot of digital illustration, but it all felt too flat and plastic-like? I use my iPad as a tool these days; working out ideas for paintings or compiling old sketches, writings and film photos to create random graphics.
With painting, I rarely touch a brush during the daylight hours. 2 a.m. is my thrive time. Especially if it’s the cold months, I’ll sacrifice sleep for a strong painting. Any. Damn. Day. I bounce off the walls in here; it’s just too fun. I treat oil painting in the wintertime like how I imagine LeBron treats practice during playoff season. I’ll listen to music and stretch out just so I can get pumped up to paint, like I’m about to play in the NBA finals or something. I don’t have a team counting on me or the prospect of a big ring — it’s just me in here. That part can kind of make painting feel too private. Sometimes I forget the part where I actually have to go out and show the work to the public. The best artists have the capacity to tolerate solitude and then the confidence (sometimes even cockiness) to present themselves, and their work, to the eyes of the public.
When it comes to reworking concepts, ideas and pieces, what allows you to initiate this cycle?
I’m usually working on 5-10 paintings at a time. I bounce around them by working in short spurts. I paint over things a lot. I think a couple of canvases of mine have 2-3 finished paintings under them. I think a huge factor that leads me to do this is that I’m surrounded by it whenever I’m home. I spend so much time looking at them that I eventually think of things to change or add. It’s kind of cool, though. The work almost “grows” with me if that makes sense. Even if the initial image is scrapped, the nuances in texture and the buildup of tones are still serving as some type of foundation for whatever will lay on top of it, influencing whatever I paint over it. Nothing is ever wasted.
Sometimes though, the reason I paint over or rework something isn’t all that deep. Sometimes I just need a canvas but it’s too late into the night, and the art store’s closed. Sometimes I don’t have the space to add another canvas so I’ll sacrifice an old piece for the sake of starting something new.
To what degree have your journal entries impacted your work?
I spend time going through old journals, dissecting and remixing the words. Sometimes, if the image is rich enough, I’ll chase it down in hopes of catching it and then I get a piece out of it.
I think one of my greatest fears is the fear of forgetting. I draw my prized possession memories in hopes that it’ll help them stick around in my mind for a little longer. I write about them for the same reasons too. I draw to share stories and the best way to share a story is to relax in the telling.
Do you remember your first oil painting? If so, what was the theme for it?
It was my senior year of high school. I was mostly just playing with the experience of laying paint down on a canvas; experimenting with where I could take it. During these initial years as an oil painter, the image would come about on its own, slowly. I’d sit down to paint with no preconceived idea of what it was I’d be painting that day. The theme wouldn’t come into fruition until the end. For that piece, I guess it was just some figures hanging out. Nothing too crazy about it. I’d show it to you all but I fear it’s not worthy of being seen; it wasn’t far off from just being downright ugly.
What part of Ohio were you originally from, and how did that influence your art?
I was born in 2001 in Cleveland during a blizzard. My parents met driving forklifts for ABF Freight, a trucking company. My paternal and maternal grandpas worked there too. One worked as a trucker and the other was doing logistics. They had me in college so once they graduated, they moved down to Dayton. This is where I grew up.
Dayton is seemingly mundane. But as I grow older, I realize that nothing in the world is plain. The Midwest taught me that. I’d spend a lot of time wandering train tracks, running miles down by the river, climbing trees, playing basketball, drawing horses and swinging on our porch swing. I made do when there was nothing to do. I don’t know if I’d be an artist if I grew up somewhere like Los Angeles or somewhere with an easy view. In Ohio, we don’t have waves to watch or mountains to ponder on.
My parents Keith and Nikki always encouraged that creative side of me and I thank them for that. My dad was always sitting down with me at the table teaching me how to draw an eye, or a house or something. My papaw was always sitting with me while I colored, showing how they all mixed and complemented each other. My mom always encouraged me to write, so I’d make all of these short stories about dogs and horses or whatever, stapling printer paper together.
What is the most intricate sketch you've ever done?
The most recent sketch I’ve done is probably from this one night a couple weeks back. My girlfriend and I were sitting in my bed winding down for the day, and I asked for a subject to draw. She said a ferris wheel off the top of her head. I hopped on Google Earth — this is where I get a lot of references if I don’t have a photo of the place I want to draw. I found one and started to draw. I thought it’d be a breeze, it’s just a circle and some support beams. I was so wrong. I was fighting for my life with that sketch. All of the tiny connecting cables and intricacies had me putting in that work. I feel like I damn near learned how to build a ferris wheel myself. Drawing shows you all of the little bits and pieces that come together to make something what it is. Drawing is appreciation.
The most intricate drawing overall that I can think of is probably this ballpoint pen drawing I did of a pianist in some jazz bar. I started it at Schwartz’s Point one night, and then it just got crazy from there. I had a helluva good time with that one. I eventually reworked the whole thing digitally and made a poster out of it. I think I called it “Bend We Don’t Break.”
To what extent has the concept of time impacted you and your work, be it positive or negative?
Sometimes I feel like a walking to-do list, but I wouldn’t change a thing. I love what I do, and do what I love.
When I sit down to paint, I simultaneously punch into an invisible time clock. I feel like I’m always on the clock — always trying to look for inspiration and information that can elevate something in my work. I see a nice shade of green and in my head I’m trying to figure out what color recipe I’d mix to recreate it. I see an interesting texture on the wall of some rotting building, so I go and try to scrape some off to scan and use for something digital. I’m in a waiting room at the doctor’s, and I’m using that time to organize random notes I’ve taken in my phone or making lists of random things I want to draw or sounds to record.
I can’t just lay here. I gotta keep my hands busy to keep my head. If I sit around for a day, I feel as if the whole world is already up and leaving me behind. Maybe it’s some kind of fear of not making my death count. Death terrifies me. I mean, we only get one death per person. The closest to immortality that I can get is leaving all of this work behind. Oil paint decays slower than the human body does. I guess this is where I try to find my solace.
My feelings on time bounce back and forth between two extremes. One moment it feels like a curse and the next, it’s a powerful ally. Whatever it is, I’d like to learn how to face time’s passing. I’d like to learn how to face it ten toes forward. I’m trying to replace my fears of getting older with curiosity for the future.
Do mediums, such as music, influence your work? If so, what genres and/or music artists play a bigger role than others?
Always. Consciously and subconsciously. I think that music is the coolest form of art that a person can make. It’s direct and to the point. You hear a certain chord progression or rhythm and the feeling that you get from it is immediate. Painting, you have to work for that feeling.
There’s this video of Ethel Cain describing her visual idea of mixing in music. She describes that when the entire range of frequencies is completed in music, you’re pulled to an elevated and enlightened state. I feel like I’ve been pulled there myself from time to time. I just don’t get that same state through painting. Maybe I do, it’s just not so obvious.
What first gave you the idea of reworking your art?
Me and this other oil painter from Dayton started out together; I was in high school and they just graduated. We had a studio in the Davis-Linden building up in Dayton — $100 a month, no heat or AC, plywood walls. We’d be in there working on huge canvases all night. Go in at 8 p.m., come out at 8 a.m., drive home, sleep, wake up, hit up Press Coffee for a cold brew, roll a joint and go back to work. Business as usual. We didn’t talk very much; we could sit in silence for hours just painting together on a canvas. I had one side, he had the other. This was our bond.
Our lives ended up taking different paths. We split our work that we’d made together and went our separate ways. I painted over half of our canvases; I couldn’t afford any fresh ones that were large enough for the new ideas I was having, so I reworked things to fit those new ideas.
Your most recent work, “SYMPTOMS OF A HIVEMIND,” was shown on Instagram on Jan. 14. Can you describe what drew you to create this piece?
Recently, I’ve been going through all of my old sketches and writings. I’ve been trying to find use out of the ones that were never used by compiling them into poster designs. It’s really fun and satisfying going through all of that old work and remixing it into something new. I’m trying to resist starting any new pieces until I finish or find use out of everything that I already have.
How has the culture of Cincinnati inspired your work?
This is a tough one. I don’t get out much. The inspiration that I can note comes from some places and people around Cincinnati. Schwartz’s Point inspired “The Village Inn” painting. Always have loved jazz music and especially the history in New York. I’ve met a lot of musicians here; we’ve discussed the similarities between oil painting and music making. Whenever I learn something about music, it seems to teach me something about looking too.
I aim to do a couple large oil paintings for the sports here too — with FC Cincinnati and the Bengals. I feel like in larger urban cities, those that reside in larger urban cities either participate toward that city’s sports or its arts scene. This would be a cool way to touch both sides of that.
In what ways do you reference your work from what's new to the old?
The best artists steal. I steal all the time. For example, my painting “Everyone Makes Mistakes. His Was Forgetting to Pack a Parachute” was inspired by Francisco Goya’s “Witches’ Flight.” I try to paint past and present linkages while nodding to the future. It’s like I’m giving a nod to the great painters of the past. I’m using the old to create the new.
How much does your photography influence your artwork, animations, etc.?
It helps me compile reference photos and documentation. I pulled from my 35 mm film for a lot of 2023. Summer of 2022, I was with someone who was moving down to rural Alabama for a job. I figured we’d might as well go out with a bang, so I randomly asked her if she wanted to drive across the country with me, sort of as a “last hoorah”
before we’d have to part ways. Two weeks after we decided we’d do it, we packed up the bed of my ‘94 Toyota pickup and drove to NYC and then from there to Maine, camping along the way. After Maine, we stopped back home in Ohio for a couple weeks to move her down to ‘Bama. After moving in, the second leg of the trip was commencing, so we left from Alabama and headed to New Orleans, then up to New Mexico. After about three months on the road, we went back to Alabama, and I went back to Ohio alone. I took so much film with me and thrived off of the inspiration from that trip for the better part of a year. I painted so many things derivative of what I captured out there. I think this is what sparked the Western art kick that I had. Although the end of the trip was sad, it was worth every mile. We beat that highway black and blue. Must’ve killed a hundred thousand flies with that old windshield. My documentation of those days inspired me to pick up plein air painting and showed me the beauty of a true American landscape. It inspired me to learn how light works and the simple beauty of painting a good view.
This interview and photoshoot took place in January 2024 as a TITLE Issue 008 Project.
Interview, Writing: Jose Padilla
Photography: Elias Dickson & Nicole Weiss
Artist: Reilly Stasienko
@stazienko stasienko.com
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